Great discussion. A good analysis and why I find it futile to build a system map. Shortly after I build it, it seems to become obsolete. On the other hand, I could argue, why make my bed up, I'm just going to sleep in it again 12 hours from now anyway. There's something about staying in space between chaos and order, where we aren't totally in one or another, that makes us want to keep organizing. I happen to also like unrumpled sheets at the end of a long day, so I make my bed in the morning. I'm not yet convinced about systems maps, and I was a practicing systems engineer from 1982 to 1990.
I would find it helpful to distinguish between various system kinds we perceive/ project - chaotic, complex adaptive, etc. Because I think in a sense there is indeed only one map for some systems- the attractor. If you map a different attractor, you have a different system. This is not the same as the perspectivalism of complicated contexts?
Luke, you might find it easier to convince people about the treachery of systems maps if you stopped talking as though there are systems in the world to map.
Great discussion. A good analysis and why I find it futile to build a system map. Shortly after I build it, it seems to become obsolete. On the other hand, I could argue, why make my bed up, I'm just going to sleep in it again 12 hours from now anyway. There's something about staying in space between chaos and order, where we aren't totally in one or another, that makes us want to keep organizing. I happen to also like unrumpled sheets at the end of a long day, so I make my bed in the morning. I'm not yet convinced about systems maps, and I was a practicing systems engineer from 1982 to 1990.
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I would find it helpful to distinguish between various system kinds we perceive/ project - chaotic, complex adaptive, etc. Because I think in a sense there is indeed only one map for some systems- the attractor. If you map a different attractor, you have a different system. This is not the same as the perspectivalism of complicated contexts?
Luke, you might find it easier to convince people about the treachery of systems maps if you stopped talking as though there are systems in the world to map.